There is money here (look around you) some should come back to the players every now and then. 7 feathers, not very generous either and I have been there 4 times with 3 different groups and only one person won anything and that was $20, so, though no one expects to beat the house, you ought to at least have the illusion of a fighting chance.
Chinook Wins is about the same, no or few wins. They have a lodge to stay in, ample parking, plus the usual table games. On the other side, there are free soft drinks, the place is spotlessly clean, the carpet is easy to follow to the buffet and shops, and the place is HUGE. On the 4 rows I played no one hit anything, maybe it was a bad day, but there should be SOME paybacks, just to keep you playing. Odds aren't generally that bad on slots, and I have played in several states and countries. Three hours and one small win over 4 machines. The machines are harsh, you have to get all 5 of the same exact type to get a win (at least on the 4 I played), so bar, bar, bar, 7bar, 7 does not win, and at no point did the bonus items ever line up even two in a row, not to even dream of 5. We were across from the cashiers and they had spider webs being built around them.
But, we were there for three hours and we heard exactly ONE machine pay out. We were there on a Wednesday afternoon, caveat.